1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,000 On this edition of Citing, a disturbing two-part report on enormous flying triangles that have 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,000 recently been witnessed by thousands of people on the ground and in the air. 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Copilot instinctively ducts because it was so close. 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:23,000 Then Nick Pope from the British Ministry of Defense speaks out about the very real danger these UFOs 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,000 represent to his government. 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,000 I certainly believe that some of them are extraterrestrial spacecraft. 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:36,000 The owners are renovating Arizona's historic Jerome Hotel, but some of its past just won't go away. 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,000 I couldn't prove that they are hauntings and I couldn't prove that they're not. 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Even if you've heard about Biofeedback, its new uses will startle you. 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,000 And is it an ancient curse that continues to plague the construction of Hawaii's newest highway? 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:56,000 It will never be right for a freeway to be on top of those sacred places. Never. 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Music 13 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Welcome to Citing's. I'm Tim White. 14 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Airline pilots see UFOs. They just don't talk about it. 15 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,000 And their culture of silence explains a lot about why one series of reoccurring visits from enormous 16 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 triangular craft have so far gone unreported. 17 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:47,000 The UFOs called Silent Vulcans are said to have made hundreds of appearances in the skies above Great Britain. 18 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,000 But this is the first time the phenomenon is being discussed outside of England by professional pilots 19 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 and others who have seen them. 20 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Sound of explosion 21 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Look at that! 22 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Hello, Dio! 23 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:11,000 For the past three years, this is what hundreds of eyewitnesses have been watching and videotaping in the skies over England. 24 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:18,000 These tapes are misleading because the UFOs are enormous, larger than any aircraft now flying. 25 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,000 They are triangular in shape with large glowing lights at each corner. 26 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,000 They can soar slowly, hover or accelerate to a tremendous speed. 27 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,000 But one of the most eerie aspects of these UFOs is what they don't do. 28 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,000 For sure, in all cases, people report that these things made no noise whatsoever. 29 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Some have been seeing only a few hundred feet up. 30 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,000 From the left, this enormous craft came over the isles. 31 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,000 I couldn't believe my eyes because there was no sound at all from this object. 32 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,000 It banged over sharp to the left and then I could see it was a huge triangle. 33 00:02:53,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Investigators have dubbed them Silent Vulcans for their passing resemblance to the British Delta Wing bomber known as the Avro Vulcan B2. 34 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:08,000 But that, according to UFO magazine editor Graham Bird-Sulp, is where the similarity ends. 35 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:14,000 The Vulcan was a pretty much triangular shaped aircraft, unique for its time. 36 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:20,000 But certainly it was no bigger than, let's say, for instance, 60 feet across. 37 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:27,000 And nothing like the kind of size that we associate with today's flying triangles, as it were. 38 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Because they are so much larger than Vulcan B2s, some aircraft experts are suggesting that the UFOs may be part of a super secret American stealth project. 39 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:47,000 I just cannot believe that something as big as that, flying over the United States fairly low, flying over here in the United Kingdom fairly low, 40 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:54,000 and flying in such numbers, could be described as a conventional super secret stealth aircraft. 41 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 I just don't buy the argument. 42 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Neither, apparently, does Britain's Civil Aviation Authority, which recently investigated a near miss between a Silent Vulcan and a British Airway 737 on approach to Manchester Airport. 43 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Commercial pilot Graham Shepherd, whose own airborne encounter has fueled a 20 year interest in UFOs, has studied the Manchester near miss. 44 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Quite suddenly, what the crew described as a triangular, very brightly lit craft, flew past them very, very close on their right hand side. 45 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:33,000 And the reports mentioned that the co-pilot instinctively ducked, because it was so close. 46 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Now they were clearly shaken up by this. They asked Radar if they had any traffic and Radar didn't see anything. 47 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:49,000 The Civil Aviation Authority pursued their investigation of the case for more than a year, and released their report in February of 1996. 48 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Their conclusion, however, was no conclusion at all. Only that the UFO was unknown. Case closed. 49 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:02,000 When Graham Shepherd attempted to follow up with the British Airways crew, he hit a brick wall. 50 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:12,000 I've written to the captain and he hasn't replied, and I have heard on the grapevine that he's not going to discuss it any further with anybody else. 51 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,000 He's fed up with the whole thing, and that if the same thing ever happened to him again, he wouldn't report it. 52 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:26,000 So that this comes back to the culture of silence, the consensus of the line of least resistance is to say nothing about these things. 53 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:33,000 It's left to researchers like aeronautical engineer Omar Fowler to pursue an explanation for the silent Balkans. 54 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:54,000 The flap in Derby started about 1994. From December 1994 until May 1995, we had 52 incidents of flying triangles over the city, hovering over main streets, buildings, highways, cars. 55 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,000 And this caused quite a lot of consternation to the local public. 56 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Although their appearance over England is relatively recent, similarly shaped UFOs have been reported throughout the world, going back more than 20 years. 57 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:15,000 In the Hudson Valley area of New York, literally hundreds of these things were reported by some pretty sane level headed people. 58 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,000 We looked over the top of the trees, and it was this object there out of nowhere. 59 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:26,000 This great big object is about 300 foot wide, the size of a football field hanging over your head. 60 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:41,000 They first attracted worldwide attention when in 1988 and 89 and 90, there were several thousand sightings, some of them at low level of triangular shaped objects over Belgium. 61 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Timothy Good, author of Beyond Top Secret, believes that Belgium was the turning point for the phenomenon because of the credibility of the eyewitnesses. 62 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Not just ordinary civilians, but highly qualified observers such as military pilots. 63 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:06,000 The Belgian Air Force was very open and disclosed how many missions they've flown against and flown triangles. 64 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:22,000 And they went to the extent of releasing cockpit radar film showing an F-16 intercepting a triangle and the terrific acceleration of the triangle away from the stationary position. 65 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:29,000 In many cases they accelerated from zero to say 900 kilometres an hour within a matter of seconds. 66 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,000 They dropped from 10,000 feet to 500 feet in a few seconds. 67 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:39,000 They were performing aerobatics that no human pilot could have stood the G-forces. 68 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 I think there could well be something ominous about this. 69 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:59,000 When I think back to 1988 when on two occasions United States Navy Tomcat aircraft were seen to disappear in close proximity to one of these gigantic triangular shaped craft. 70 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,000 And I spoke to the witnesses in both instances and I'm convinced they were telling the truth. 71 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Off the record pilots, both military and civilian, are concerned. 72 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:20,000 The silent Vulcans seem to want to engage our aircraft and even the most highly trained pilots have never been trained out in deal with the security threat of an extraterrestrial kind. 73 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:27,000 As far as a threat is concerned my feeling is yes some of these craft are dangerous. 74 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:34,000 I have no doubts about that whatsoever. And some of the beings associated with them are dangerous. 75 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,000 I don't think they have our best interests at heart. 76 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:46,000 The silent Vulcan phenomenon has changed the thinking of many former skeptics including one member of Britain's Ministry of Defence. 77 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:54,000 When we return my interview with Nick Pope, a man who has studied UFOs from the inside and is now speaking out. 78 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Next, Nick Pope speaks his mind. 79 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:04,000 I cannot stay silent about what I believe we must treat as a potential threat. 80 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Huge mother ships known as silent Vulcans have been spotted in the skies above Great Britain for more than 10 years. 81 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:23,000 But even after dozens of confirmed sightings by professional pilots and other credible eyewitnesses, 82 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,000 no one in the British government has made public comment on the phenomenon. 83 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Until now. 84 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Joining the sightings investigative team in London, I met Nick Pope, the number one UFO man in the Ministry of Defence. 85 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:47,000 For 40 years, Defence Ministry policy regarding UFOs was to deny, deflect or dismiss all sightings. 86 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:55,000 This 1952 document to then Prime Minister Winston Churchill reveals that UFOs were routinely explained away 87 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:01,000 as everything from lunar eclipses and lousy weather to stray birds and optical illusions. 88 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Not until 1991 did things change when a diligent government worker named Nick Pope 89 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:13,000 put his career on the line by exposing what he believes to be an alarming threat from outer space. 90 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:19,000 I cannot stay silent about what I believe we must treat as a potential threat. 91 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:24,000 When Pope first accepted his assignment to process UFO reports at the Defence Ministry, 92 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:29,000 he was as skeptical about alien spacecraft as the long line of civil servants who had preceded him. 93 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,000 But then he started reading the reports. 94 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:38,000 It seemed strange to me that none of my predecessors had really seemed to take this very seriously. 95 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:44,000 My brief at the Ministry of Defence was to look for evidence of a threat to the defence of the UK. 96 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:51,000 I felt that I couldn't make a decision about whether there was or was not a threat until I'd done a full investigation. 97 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:57,000 For Pope, that meant personally interviewing eyewitnesses and established UFO researchers. 98 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:07,000 For a Ministry of Defence officer to start talking with UFO researchers was unheard of 99 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,000 and it was very much frowned upon in his office. 100 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,000 I remember he told me at the time that it was rather like sleeping with the enemy. 101 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,000 As UFO reports by the hundreds crossed Pope's desk, 102 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:24,000 he began to believe that the phenomenon had serious national and global implications. 103 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Was there a point in time at which you became someone who said, 104 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,000 you know, there's really something here? 105 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Yes, I think 31st of March 1993, when I got into work and during that day, 106 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:46,000 I suppose took several dozen calls from people, a lot of police and a lot of military witnesses, 107 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,000 saying that they had seen a structured craft. 108 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,000 I had reports, for example, from a meteorological officer, 109 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:58,000 a chap with eight years of experience of looking at the night sky and judging what the weather was going to be 110 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 so that he could brief the aircrew. 111 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:05,000 As he put it to me, it behaved like nothing he had ever seen before in his entire life. 112 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,000 He did not have the slightest idea what it was and it passed straight over the top of the base. 113 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,000 This was not the last time Pope would hear about the silent prophets. 114 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:18,000 The reports were particularly disturbing because these UFOs seemed to be targeting military bases. 115 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,000 And were impossible to trace. 116 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,000 The disturbing thing was that these didn't show up on radar at all. 117 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,000 So we never got our air defense aircraft off the ground. 118 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:32,000 That worries me that, you know, something which you've got to regard as potentially hostile 119 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:38,000 until you know what it is, what it's doing, can get slapped bang over the top of a military installation 120 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:44,000 without showing up on the radar, without us getting any air defense assets even deployed. 121 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,000 You determined that there might well be threats to national security 122 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 and yet nobody listened, right? 123 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Your superiors weren't interested in what you had to say? 124 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,000 People don't like admitting that they've been wrong 125 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:00,000 and it's much easier for them to just say, no, maybe Nick Pope was wrong, 126 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 maybe he's misinterpreting the data. 127 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,000 I just can't support that view. 128 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,000 I was the one getting the raw data. 129 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 I was doing the investigation. 130 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Can anyone ever come along and tell you to calm down a little bit and cool it? 131 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Yes, on one or two occasions people said to me, you know, 132 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,000 I think you're devoting a little bit too much time and effort into this. 133 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:27,000 The official angle, of course, has always been very much the typical stiff British upper lip. 134 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:32,000 It's all foolish nonsense, there's nothing to it and that's all I'm going to tell you. 135 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,000 UFO magazine has done a series of articles on Nick Pope. 136 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:42,000 It believes the British government is hiding UFO secrets which dwarf Pope's revelations. 137 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:49,000 The Cold War may be over but here in Great Britain we still shiver sometimes because of the secrecy. 138 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Some others would suggest that Nick Pope basically was just the front man for a grand cover-up. 139 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Well, I don't think there is any great cover-up in Britain. 140 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:04,000 I think that what we actually have is a position where people far from knowing too much about the phenomenon 141 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 and then keeping it all under wraps. 142 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,000 No corporately, far too little about it. 143 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,000 The best way to study the real UFOs, as I like to call them, 144 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:18,000 was to very quickly eliminate the ones that were just misidentifications. 145 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Nine out of ten of them did have conventional explanations. 146 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:30,000 What do you think people are seeing in that ten percent of the cases where there are not prosaic answers for UFOs? 147 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:35,000 I certainly believe that some of them are extraterrestrial spacecraft 148 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,000 that quite simply elsewhere in the universe other intelligences have evolved 149 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:49,000 and are doing what after all we ourselves are now beginning to do, to go out into space and to see what's out there. 150 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Unlike his counterparts in the United States, Nick Pope has not felt constrained to keep out of the UFO limelight. 151 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:03,000 At lectures and on television, Pope has continued to bring his message and his warning to the British people. 152 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:13,000 What I'm trying to do is to give a flavour of what has been an extraordinarily uneasy and difficult relationship 153 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:22,000 between the world of officialdom in the UK and this incredibly elusive, mysterious UFO subject. 154 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:27,000 In his book about his experiences at the British Ministry of Defence, Pope concludes, 155 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:32,000 we all like to think we're in control, but what happens when we're not? 156 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:38,000 What happens when we refuse to accept that a threat even exists and alone do anything to counter it? 157 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:43,000 This is the ultimate dilemma about UFOs, which we must face. 158 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:49,000 We can't begin to find any solution until we first acknowledge that there is a problem. 159 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Even though Nick Pope does not believe that there is a conspiracy of silence within the British government, 160 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:02,000 it is interesting to note that after his recent revelations about UFOs, Pope was moved to a new position. 161 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,000 He is now an economic analyst at the Ministry of Defence. 162 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Next, has this computer scientist succeeded in creating artificial life? 163 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Later, sightings investigates a very historic and a very haunted Arizona hotel. 164 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Here are some of the stories sightings is following in the news. 165 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Saucers, land in Manhattan, well, in New York City art galleries, that is, 166 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,000 artwork with an alien motif is making a big splash this season, 167 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:40,000 and investors are setting up and taking notice. 168 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:47,000 In New York City, a SoHo gallery showing can mean the difference between instant fame and lifelong obscurity. 169 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:52,000 This is where the trends are set, and this is where a new genre is emerging. 170 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,000 It's being called UFO art. 171 00:16:54,000 --> 00:17:00,000 There's a broader interest that has made UFOs almost like a cultural icon. 172 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 It's pervading our society. 173 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Display spaces like the American Primitive Gallery and the Hudson Grill 174 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:13,000 are promoting these icons of pop culture as fine art, giving them a new legitimacy in the mainstream. 175 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:18,000 There's art in this show that are made by artists who are trained artists 176 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:23,000 who are interested in the subject or have some kind of a fascination with it. 177 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:31,000 Then there are people who are making the art to actually express this experience they actually had. 178 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,000 It's almost therapeutic. 179 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:39,000 An alien abduction or a contact with the UFO is a life-shattering experience. 180 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,000 It's something one never forgets. 181 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:47,000 There's a need to be able to deal with it through artwork that's a channel. 182 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:54,000 And what gallery owners are discovering is that it is not only the UFO community that is embracing UFO art. 183 00:17:54,000 --> 00:18:00,000 The people who have been coming to see this show are, again, as wide a spectrum as the people who made the art. 184 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:08,000 I didn't anticipate being contacted from all over the country as far as the art is concerned. 185 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:13,000 As far as people interested in finding out about the show and wanting to get pictures. 186 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,000 The artists are just as surprised to find such a broad market for their work. 187 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:23,000 I think there's a lot more people out there that have been making art of this type 188 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,000 and probably artwork that I can't even imagine. 189 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,000 It feels like this show is just a tip of an iceberg. 190 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,000 The next UFO art show in Manhattan is set to open on Independence Day 1997 191 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:40,000 to coincide with the landing of the Pathfinder probe on Mars. 192 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,000 In Murray Hill, New Jersey, a research physicist at Bell Labs 193 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:55,000 has created a computer simulation that he believes mimics the spontaneous creation of life on an infant planet Earth. 194 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,000 One of the things that hadn't been done before that I wanted to look at 195 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:04,000 was to see if I could spontaneously generate self-replicating programs 196 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,000 from what was an initially random soup of instructions. 197 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Dr. Parjales discovered that when he typed a random series of commands into his computer program, 198 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,000 the program soon began to take on a life of its own. 199 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:24,000 And once that happens, I now have a self-replicating host that then begins to generate children. 200 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:30,000 And that is what we think occurred on Earth billions of years ago and is occurring to this day. 201 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Until recently, the term alive was only applicable to animals and plants. 202 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,000 But Dr. Parjales' Amoeba program raises provocative questions about what is a life form. 203 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Modern dictionaries now say that life is a material complex that, among other things, 204 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,000 can metabolize, can reproduce, can adapt to a changing environment, etc. 205 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,000 There's been some interesting questions with regards to life and whether these things are alive. 206 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:59,000 All I can say is if we do consider them to be alive, it's extremely primitive. 207 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Primitive or not, the creatures in this program are apparently on the evolutionary fast track. 208 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:09,000 It may take a day, let's say, for some really interesting organisms to develop in my program. 209 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Still, it's a lot quicker than what we think is the time span here on Earth of several billion years. 210 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:22,000 This computer colony can't jump off the screen, but could it infiltrate other computers at Bell Labs or beyond? 211 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:27,000 What we have is a virtual world where we've got little programs that are in memory 212 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,000 and they're not in any way trying to access the operating system. 213 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:35,000 So these are not at all like viruses that some evil hacker might use. 214 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Dr. Parjales hopes that this high-tech experiment will lead to computer programs that can update and optimize themselves. 215 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Just as life on Earth has adapted to eons of change. 216 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,000 There's a great deal that still needs to be done. I mean, we've really only just scratched the surface. 217 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:00,000 From Roswell, New Mexico, an update on our report about a mysterious piece of debris 218 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 allegedly retrieved from a flying saucer crash site. 219 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:09,000 The fragment was given to Max LaTel, administrator of the International UFO Museum and Research Center. 220 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:16,000 An anonymous party turned the metal over to LaTel and claimed that the fragment was found in 1947 among the crash wreckage. 221 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:23,000 Initial tests by a metallurgist at New Mexico Tech determined that the sample was composed of layers of copper and silver, 222 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,000 both elements known to be present on other planets. 223 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,000 Well now an independent analyst has performed further testing 224 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:38,000 and has come to his own conclusion that the alleged crash debris is of terrestrial origin, perhaps a piece of unusual jewelry. 225 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:46,000 Although the results of the tests are only preliminary, LaTel has accepted them and plans no further analysis. 226 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:53,000 But he and other researchers continue to search for legitimate hard evidence that will finally put Roswell to rest. 227 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:03,000 We'll have more stories in the news next time. Now here's what's coming up as sightings continues. 228 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,000 The Jerome Hotel's haunted past comes back to life. 229 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,000 There are things that have happened in this building that I can't explain. 230 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,000 Later, more problems for Hawaii's cursed highway. 231 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Jerome, Arizona was like a lot of prosperous towns in the Old West. Jerome thrived as long as the mine nearby thrived. 232 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,000 But when the mine closed down, Jerome became a ghost town. 233 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:44,000 But now lured by untouched historic buildings and its prime tourist location, people are moving back to Jerome. 234 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,000 The only problem is the ghosts aren't moving out. 235 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:59,000 Jerome is in the middle of nowhere. But in the 1920s, this was a boom town. 236 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:06,000 Home to one of the most lucrative copper mines in the world, legend has it that everyone who was anyone visited Jerome. 237 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:12,000 Residents here enjoyed every modern convenience, including the best equipped hospital in Arizona. 238 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Then, in 1953, the mines closed, the money dried up, and Jerome's population plummeted from 15,000 to just a handful of holdouts. 239 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:29,000 The buildings were abandoned, the doors of the hospital were closed, and the owners simply walked away. 240 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:39,000 It's gone through many, many years of being vacant and somehow remained intact. I don't know what basically protected it. 241 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:49,000 In 1994, Larry Outier and his brother Bob purchased the old hospital from the filmstage mining company. 242 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,000 They renovated it and reopened it as their Jerome Grand Hotel. 243 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:59,000 It wasn't long before guests and workers alike began experiencing strange haunting activity. 244 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:06,000 There are things that have happened in this building, then things that I have seen in this building that I can't explain. 245 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,000 The main feeling that I get is energy being pulled out of me. 246 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:16,000 There's enough bizarre things that have happened that I couldn't prove that they are hauntings and I couldn't prove that they're not. 247 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:22,000 Primarily we hear strange noises, it could sound like a door opening or closing. 248 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:31,000 We had one person on the third floor, nobody came in the building and he says that there was somebody knocking on his door in an attempt to open it. 249 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:37,000 And now I can rely on myself because I am the one here. There was no other way to get up there. 250 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Sightings mounted an investigation led by noted psychic Jory and DeVry. 251 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:51,000 After spending just one night in the hotel, DeVry said she knew why there was so much paranormal activity inside this more abandoned landmark. 252 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:59,000 As I stop here, this is dense to me, this is heavy, this is thick. I've got goosebumps going up and down my whole body. 253 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Accompanied by the Outier brothers and several Jerome residents who had had experiences in the building, 254 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:16,000 DeVry conducted a kind of psychic tour, trying to put a name to the dark, dense energy she felt swirling inside and outside the recently restored hotel. 255 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Has anyone ever felt like somebody like psychically coughing on them? 256 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:31,000 What was my mother-in-law was staying in the room next door here and she swears up and down that somebody was walking up and down the hallway up in this area. 257 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:40,000 They had had a number of legs hit the valley. Here with a lot of your underground mining and stuff, some people were more susceptible to lung problems. 258 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:51,000 While it wouldn't be unusual to feel illness and suffering inside a former hospital, Jory Anne was adamant that what she was sensing were not the spirits of patients. 259 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,000 She felt these were victims. 260 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,000 I picked up a shooting and a hanging. 261 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,000 You did? 262 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,000 Yes. 263 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,000 Tell me if you're scared. 264 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:09,000 The shooting that you're referring to was an attempt that wasn't successful and that happened in the room we just walked through. 265 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,000 The superintendent was successful in his shooting. 266 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000 Here's one I don't know about. 267 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000 Okay, good. Then we did have a successful shooting, right? 268 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,000 Yes. 269 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000 Can I add one more thing? 270 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,000 Yes. 271 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Did somebody fall to their death? 272 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:36,000 This is what I've heard. I cannot document it. I've heard that a guy was injured and he was in a wheelchair and he pulled himself out here and he got himself over it. 273 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:45,000 And although DeVry had never visited the hotel or read about its history, she walked directly into this room and revealed a tragic secret. 274 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:50,000 I picked up somebody hanging themselves very clearly in this environment. 275 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Who's boss? 276 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:58,000 Choked with emotion, former police chief Ron Ballatorre revealed it in 1983 in this very room. 277 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,000 He had discovered a body hanging from this pipe. 278 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:08,000 Was there anyone that was involved in a relationship situation at all that kind of drove them, you know, beyond the point and stuff? 279 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Because I'm telling you, something heavy was going on. It was a romantic situation. I know it was. 280 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,000 The gentleman that lived here was separated from his wife. 281 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Okay. 282 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,000 And I saw by some circumstances that he had no control over it all. 283 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000 Right. 284 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,000 As a matter of fact, my understanding is that some relatives really had control of his life. 285 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,000 And he did not want to be separated from his wife, nor did she want to be separated from him. 286 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,000 He ended up living here while she was living in Parkdale. 287 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,000 And I guess at some point it just got to be too much for him. 288 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:50,000 Throughout her tour, DeVry kept coming back to this elevator where she felt very negative energy. 289 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:56,000 When I was coming into the elevator, I sensed that there was like a heaviness in the air. 290 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000 I felt like it was thicker, more dense. 291 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:09,000 And it was in the boiler room where the elevator's motor and controls are located that DeVry began to put together more pieces in this hotel's psychic puzzle. 292 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000 This seems to be significant. 293 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000 It felt like activity around this area. 294 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,000 The elevator's never gets stuck or anything like that also. 295 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,000 In 1935, they were having a problem with it. 296 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,000 See, and even right now, sitting here, I'm getting a little pain in my head. 297 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:36,000 I don't know if a person got caught up back here or got stuck or having problems back here. 298 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,000 Does that make sense? 299 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,000 Did they expire? 300 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,000 Yes. 301 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,000 They did expire. 302 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,000 In 1935, maintenance engineer Claude Harvey was found here. 303 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,000 His head crushed under this very same elevator. 304 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:54,000 A coroner's inquest ruled the death an accident, even though no autopsy was performed, and the elevator was in perfect working order. 305 00:28:54,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Historian Nancy Smith believes the inquest raises more questions than it answers, and that Harvey may have died at the hands of another. 306 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,000 There were a lot of questions that weren't asked. 307 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:17,000 I think they were in a hurry to get as much of the minimum facts in as they could, so that they could come to that verdict that it was an accidental death and that the company had no responsibility in it. 308 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,000 I think it's a good who done it. 309 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000 Jorianne DeVry agrees. 310 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Claude Harvey's death was no accident, and the horrible injustice that took his life has also trapped his spirit inside the Jerome Grand. 311 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000 I believe that he is on stage. 312 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:40,000 I believe that there is some restlessness around him and his questionable death. 313 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:58,000 DeVry believes that Claude Harvey's restless spirit has created a negative psychic vortex at the Jerome Grand, but she suggests once the true cause of Harvey's death is finally uncovered, he and all of the guests at the hotel will finally be able to rest in peace. 314 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:07,000 Jorianne's psychic hits were all the more impressive because she was given no information whatever about Jerome or the Grand Hotel before her arrival. 315 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:13,000 In fact, Jorianne lives in Indiana, and she'd never even been to Arizona before her work on this story. 316 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:41,000 Brain disorders like clinical depression and ADD, attention deficit disorder, are most often treated with drugs that attempt to alter the chemistry of the brain. 317 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:49,000 However, more and more doctors and psychologists are exploring a new kind of non-chemical treatment called EEG biofeedback. 318 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,000 It's a new treatment based on the theory that the brain can be trained to fix itself. 319 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:07,000 You are hearing the sound of brain waves at work. 320 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:14,000 Hooked up to computers via these sensors, children with attention deficit disorder are learning how to reprogram their brains. 321 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:22,000 ADD suffers are highly distracted, often hyperactive, and out of control kids who have long been treated with drug therapy. 322 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:30,000 But at the Drink Institute for Behavioral Medicine, Dr. David Belkoff offers his patients an alternative using a kind of hands-off Nintendo. 323 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:37,000 They're playing a video game that their brain controls, and when they're producing normal brain waves, the video game works. 324 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:51,000 They're hooked up to an electrode that records their brain waves, and when their brain shifts to a faster speed that's necessary for focusing, concentrating, being calm, they see fast brain waves on a computer screen through video games. 325 00:31:51,000 --> 00:32:01,000 Eight-year-old Portia Gardner had been living with her aunt and uncle, Joan and Rex Campbell, for four and a half years before she was finally diagnosed with severe ADD. 326 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:08,000 From the time that she was with us, I kept saying, you know, something's not right here. I didn't know what was wrong. 327 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,000 She couldn't remember simple directions. She was very destructive. 328 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:22,000 Sometimes I felt so bad that I locked myself in my room for like a whole day. 329 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Life at home with Portia was extremely difficult, and keeping her in school was nearly impossible. 330 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:38,000 We got many letters from school stating that Portia, she disrupted the class all day. She wouldn't be hey, she wouldn't stop talking. 331 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,000 The teacher said that she was not focusing in school. She was drifting away. 332 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:49,000 Instead of more traditional drug therapy, the Campbells decided to try behavioral therapy before resorting to Ritalin. 333 00:32:49,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Portia, when she first came here, was extremely hyperactive, impulsive, significant difficulty sitting still, and because of that, she really couldn't pay attention very well. 334 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000 Neurologically, she was out of control. 335 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,000 So why don't you show me your focusing position? Okay. 336 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,000 Portia came to Drake three times a week, every week for five months. 337 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,000 Altogether, she received 45 half-hour treatments. 338 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:20,000 Really relaxing your body, your back. Doing great. 339 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:27,000 To use an analogy, Portia's brain, like many others with ADD, was stuck in a different gear than it should be. 340 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:35,000 By observing her own brain waves, then focusing and concentrating on changing gears, Portia was able to retrain her own mind. 341 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:45,000 The feedback is helping me a lot. Like, I'm not moving as much as I used to in class. I'm focusing a little bit better than I used to. 342 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:54,000 Now I want Portia to come up, and I want her to solve this problem, sister, solve that problem. 343 00:33:54,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Through her own determination and the power of her mind, Portia is turning her life around. 344 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:07,000 Portia's life has changed dramatically. Her self-esteem has changed, her self-confidence has changed, her view of herself has changed. 345 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:18,000 She's always singing and skipping and playing, and she loves to come in and repeat rhymes and stuff. She's learning school. 346 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:24,000 I look in the mirror and what do I see? A funny-looking monkey looking back at me. 347 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,000 She's a much happier child now. 348 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:35,000 It was ugly before. It was bad. It wasn't going great for me. It wasn't going good for me. 349 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:46,000 Breakthroughs with EEG biofeedback are not exclusive to children with ADD. Great strides are also being made with adults who are trying to break the chain of physical addiction. 350 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:56,000 You know, I guess when I look back over my life, I realized that I had a problem with alcohol fairly early on in life. 351 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:05,000 I had my first DUI when I was 19 years old, and so I guess that's an indication that there may have been a problem. 352 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:13,000 Norm Lomax is proud to be clean and sober and credits the Life Sciences Institute in Topeka, Kansas with his recovery. 353 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,000 His success with EEG biofeedback came at the end of a long and torturous road. 354 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:27,000 He'd been to three different residential treatment centers. He tried numerous outpatient therapies and support groups, and he nearly lost his wife 27 years. 355 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:39,000 Before Norm went to Life Sciences, living with him was like living with nothing. He would come home from work. He'd go to the basement. He'd drink. He'd go to sleep. It's like he wasn't even there. 356 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:46,000 In what he was sure was to be his last hope, Norm began to try to retrain his brain. 357 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:56,000 He worked with Carol Snarr, a psychophysiologic therapist, and one of the pioneers in using EEG biofeedback to treat physical addictions, particularly alcoholism. 358 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:05,000 Alcoholics are people often that have a deficiency in one of those slower brainwaves, the brainwave that's called alpha. 359 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:15,000 It's a very important brainwave in that when we produce some of that, that is the brainwave that gives us a sense of joy, a sense of ease in life. 360 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:26,000 So what we are attempting to do is increase the amount of the alpha brainwave that they produce and thus help them feel a lot more at ease in life. 361 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:34,000 An individual will sit and listen to the machine. There's a tone for each one of the brainwaves that we produce. 362 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:43,000 So their task is to get a sense of getting into the state of consciousness that will produce more of those tones. 363 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Within just a short while, I learned to recognize the difference in the different brainwave patterns, and I knew when the things that we wanted to increase or improve were happening. 364 00:36:53,000 --> 00:37:00,000 Results vary widely, but Norm believes he had a significant breakthrough after just five sessions. 365 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,000 By about 11 o'clock in the morning, I was starting to have kind of a really crummy day. 366 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:14,000 I had to go down the street to a hardware store to pick up some parts, and on the way back to the shop, I drove by the same liquor store that I'd gone to hundreds of times, 367 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:22,000 and the thought crossed my mind, you know, I can lick this problem real quick. All I got to do is just stop in here. 368 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:29,000 But for some reason, I didn't even slow down, and I didn't stop, and I just went on with the rest of my day. 369 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:42,000 That was the day that I realized the difference between concentrating my efforts to not do all those bad things and instead just relax and do the right things. 370 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:48,000 That was two and a half years ago. Since then, success, not failure, is the story of Norm's life. 371 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:55,000 Success he attributes to changing not only his behavior patterns, but also his brainwave patterns. 372 00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:02,000 I really don't feel like that I'm a recovering alcoholic. I mean, I think I have recovered. 373 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:12,000 After I completed the other treatment programs, I went out, lived my life a day at a time, just hanging on and trying not to drink. 374 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,000 Today, that's not even one of the considerations. 375 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:27,000 The odds appear to be in his favor too. The Life Sciences Institute claims the success rate of between 65 and 70%, and they claim it's success that lasts forever. 376 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:38,000 That's one nice thing about it, is with biofeedback of any kind, as well, with the brainwave training, that once you have made the physiological changes in the body, that they stay. 377 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:47,000 It's sobered him up and it's kept him that way, and really gave him back to us, out of the bottle, back to us. 378 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:59,000 The mysterious power of the mind remains largely undiscovered, and the success people like Portia and Norm are enjoying is only the beginning of a new science on the cutting edge. 379 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:08,000 To say that this experience with the biofeedback and the brainwave training has changed my life significantly would be an understatement. 380 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:14,000 I'm glad that I got help. It's much better for me. 381 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:26,000 EEG biofeedback is still quite controversial, but more and more people are turning to this noninvasive therapy for help with everything from panic attacks to sleep disorders to epilepsy. 382 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:35,000 And an ongoing VA study is showing that EEG biofeedback may even be effective in relieving Veterans PTSD, post-traumatic stress disorder. 383 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:41,000 Next, is it a curse that's turned Hawaii's newest highway into its deadliest? 384 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:46,000 They are waking up spirits that are even more powerful than the one before. 385 00:39:47,000 --> 00:40:01,000 On a recent episode of Sightings, we brought you the story of the H3, a highway near Honolulu that's been plagued by unexplained accidents and tragic deaths. 386 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:12,000 Many believe the road is cursed because it runs through a sacred Hawaiian burial ground, and recent accidents there seem to bear out the possibility that the curse of H3 is real. 387 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,000 The H3 is paved with tragedy. Two dead, dozens injured. 388 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:29,000 It's taken more than 20 years and $1.5 billion to build a highway that's only 16 miles long, making the H3 the most expensive stretch of road anywhere in the world. 389 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:35,000 The H3 nightmare doesn't surprise many Hawaiians, but believe that the H3 is cursed. 390 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:44,000 They're construction workers and subcontractors have witnessed equipment moving without operators being in them and then stopping and starting. 391 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:53,000 And according to one confidential source who has spoken with many H3 construction workers, a number of mysterious illnesses have been caught on the work crew. 392 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:59,000 Otherwise, healthy young men have fainted, suffered cardiac arrest, and at least two have had heart attacks. 393 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:07,000 Workers report off the record that the haunting activity and the illnesses are distracting, causing them to make simple mistakes. 394 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:12,000 Unofficially, it's the curse that's being blamed for this freak accident. 395 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:22,000 On July 27th, 1996, four 60-ton girders cracked off the highway and plummeted to the valley below. 396 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:30,000 Four workers were hospitalized. Ironically, the accident occurred while workers were installing earthquake restraints to make the freeway safer. 397 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:50,000 Lily Kala is an associate professor for Hawaiian studies at the University of Hawaii. She is an expert on Hawaiian history and mythology. 398 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:59,000 So this is the collapse and they are trying to pretend like they don't know what's happening or they can't explain it, but gee, it must be something logical. 399 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,000 They don't want to believe that it's Hawaiian gods. 400 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:07,000 But sources have told sightings that some workers are starting to believe in the power and presence of these spirits. 401 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:15,000 Just before the highway section started to crack and collapsed, the workers reported hearing the sound of footsteps. 402 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,000 They're spooked. They're really scared. 403 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:27,000 The interesting thing is that because of the way the freeway span fell, those people should have been killed and they survived. 404 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,000 So we see this as a warning. This is not the end. 405 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:39,000 The contractors have attempted to appease critics by bringing in priests to bless the highway on a number of occasions. 406 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,000 Native Hawaiians scoff at these overtures. 407 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:50,000 They think all they need is a Christian minister to come in and bless the site and they can just continue, but that's not addressing the problem. 408 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:59,000 The problem is desecration of sacred sites. You're dealing with a different forces here. You're not dealing with something that Christianity can comprehend. 409 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:11,000 According to ancient Hawaiian teachings, desecration of sacred sites in books of curse called aheva, and the only way to remove the heva is to remove the highway. 410 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:22,000 It is not up to humans to try to bless or take away the heva by words. It is up to humans to take away the heva by deed. 411 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:28,000 It will never be right for a freeway to be on top of those sacred places. Never. The heva will be there forever. 412 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,000 And the strange things we have seen happening there will continue to happen there. 413 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:39,000 And in fact, the H3 workers do appear to be the ones to bear the brunt of their ancestors' fury. 414 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:52,000 What they need to realize is that as they go into that mountain, that they are waking up spirits and probably near certain burials or sacred places that are even more powerful than the one before. 415 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,000 They need to realize that they should stop building this freeway. 416 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:08,000 The state of Hawaii plans to open the H3 in May of 1997 with a celebratory foot race for 60,000 runners. 417 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:18,000 Historian Lily Calla believes this may turn out to be the ultimate indignity to her ancestors, and she fears for the future of the highway and its travelers. 418 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:49,000 Until next time, remember, no mystery is closed to an open mind. For Sightings, I'm Tim White. 419 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:05,000 Experience strange and unexplained phenomena. Sightings is next on Sci-Fi. 420 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,000 Sightings is next on Sci-Fi.